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I will be going over this technique and theory to a number of colleagues in a few weeks time but was wondering if there has been an agreed name for the procedure instead of 'needling'. I have seen a few different ones dotted about, is there one that people prefer more than others?
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I think that the "needling technique" or "verrucae plantaris needling technique" are the best terms.
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California School of Podiatric Medicine at Samuel Merritt College
he may have spelled his name "Faulkner"
sorry for any confusion.
steve
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Errr. The original author gave it a name, the clue is in the title of his paper "Needling". He spoke about it first, that's what he chose to call it, viz. it's called "needling". End of story. "I think what Falknor meant to call it was..." No , he called it needling. "But don't you think that it should be called..." No, he called it needling. "But he deserves some credit.." No, he called it needling.
Kevin called the medial heel skive technique, the "medial heel skive technique". Hence, that's what it is called. "But, I think what Kevin meant to call it was the Kirby Skive". No, he called it the medial heel skive technique.
I've never been that confident to presume that the original author and inventor of something might not have called it what he wanted to call it. But hey, "some people got way too much confidence, baby". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9rQ8lkQ5c
Best wishes,
Simon (calling it as I see it)
P.S. your poll shows a bias- where's the "needling" option? Since this is what the original author called it, you might have thought it'd be in your list? But no...
Agreed. But for some patients the term may well fuel fears and give undue apprehension where they exhibit a needle phobia - so in this case I think it might be arguable that it would be best to provide a more apposite alternative for public consumption.
Agreed. But for some patients the term may well fuel fears and give undue apprehension where they exhibit a needle phobia - so in this case I think it might be arguable that it would be best to provide a more apposite alternative for public consumption.
Call it fisticum then. I think in order for the public to consume it, you're going to need to describe it: "I will repeatedly insert a sharp, slender metal rod into the wart". Patient: "what's a sharp, slender metal rod look like?" Like this. Patient: "a needle then?" Yeah. That'll be the one. Patient: "I've got a phobia of needles". Don't worry, this is called fisticum, it's different. Patient: "looks like a ****ing needle to me". Yeah, we just wanted to make it more palatable for public consumption, so we renamed it. Patient: "it's still a ****ing needle."
This used to be called "arsenic", but now it's called "drink-me", sales have gone through the roof since we re-branded it.
P.S. I saw Dr Rosemary (boy, is she an irritant) on BBC breakfast news this morning talking about childhood obesity and saying that Dr's shouldn't be telling children or their parents that they are over-weight / fat / obese. Yeah........ look it say what it is... It's a fat kid. I'm with Del. That'll be me not believing that you can pick up a turd by the clean end, either.
Worlds gone mad.
It's a needle, I'm going to repeatedly stick it into you- we call this technique "needling". Look at it, say what it is.... I've recently undergone a sharp, slender metal rodding to treat my lesion caused by the human papilloma virus. K. You've had your wart needled then. No, I live in Richmond.
I think the main problem people had with the plain term 'needling' was that it has mainly become associated with acupuncture and especially with patients googling everything that is said to them these days it could end up causing some confusion.
I think by making slight adjustments to the original term coined by the author such as 'verrucae plantaris needling technique' one of the option suggested by kevin, just makes it that tad clearer.
Although I agree with why people would just want to call it needling, and if thats what they advertised it as, its not exactly going to bring the whole profession crashing to its knees
The Black Country is in the west midlands (Dudley) and surrounding areas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Country. Im going to call it the Falknor Needling Technique just as I prescribe Kirby Skives and Blake inverted orthoses (its what is officially written on our prescription forms within the NHS) =P
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The Black Country is in the west midlands (Dudley) and surrounding areas
Thanks for the enlightenment. I new it was in the West Midlands but just assumed it was around Handsworth. Once had a very good beer at the Pie Factory.....
Thanks for the enlightenment. I new it was in the West Midlands but just assumed it was around Handsworth. Once had a very good beer at the Pie Factory.....
Is that where the black country is? Thanks Footfan. Never ever been anywhere near there myself- full of weirdo's or so I've heard.
Interesting question. It always seems slightly presumptuous to me to name something after yourself (Rothbarts foot for example). That said there are many things in podiatry which now carry eponymous names.
I rather doubt that I would find the term "Rootian Biomechanics" in any of the writings of root, orien and weed, although it is now accepted terminolgy. Likewise if I polled my colleagues I suspect more would have heard of the Kirby skive than the Medial heel skive.
Perhaps the honour of an eponymous name is one which is best confered by ones colleagues rather than self bestowed....
Anyway, best go, can't be spending too long on Payne's site.
Another 'Needling' Thread! Agreed Name?
Re: Another 'Needling' Thread! Agreed Name?
Touche Mr Russell, Touche!
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