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Has anyone heard of using fruit acid peels for the treatment of hyperkeratosis? I hope you can help with this one - the explanation may be a bit long winded, but I'll get there eventually.
A local beautician who rents a room to an Aesthetic Practitioner described observing a client who had 'excessive hard skin' on his feet, having them wrapped with a fruit acid preparation for a short time, which upon removal enabled the practictioner to remove the hard skin with gentle scraping with a wooden tongue depressor.
Needless to say the client was impressed, as was the beautician. She wanted to know if I offered the same service. I have spoken to another Aethetic practitioner who seems to think that the strength of the fruit acid would have be quite a bit stronger than that used for facial peels, but could offer no more information than that.
Hope you can help, as I do have one or two clients myself who would benefit from the service.
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How were the fruit acid peels prepared?
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Sorry I don't know, as I said this was an observation by a Beautician when delivering a message to an Aesthetic Practitioner who rented a room from her. She wasn't there at the time of application, only observed the removal. It's because the results appeared to be so fantastic that I'm trying to find out whether anyone out there is also using these peels.
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Why not just go to the source and ask the Aesthetic Practitioner ?????
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What we are talking about is alpha hydroxy acids. These come in various forms, glycolic acid being the most commonly used by cosmetic physicians and the like for face peels etc.

In our practice my wife has a keen interest in aesthetic medicine treatments for chronic hyperkeratosis and heel fissuring. She uses preparations up and around 50% or more for short periods. She also provides a take home preparation of 10% glycolic acid for daily use between treatments.

There is ample evidence in the cosmetic medicine and dermatology literature supporting AHAs as being far superior to urea and the like.

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Have tried to but she was very vague - obviously didn't want me invading her professional turf. Asked another Aesthetic practitioner who thought that the product used would have to be stronger than those that she uses for facial peels, and she hadn't come across any practitioners doing this or any training courses relevant for feet. Hence my decision to ask here.
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What we are talking about is alpha hydroxy acids. These come in various forms, glycolic acid being the most commonly used by cosmetic physicians and the like for face peels etc.

In our practice my wife has a keen interest in aesthetic medicine treatments for chronic hyperkeratosis and heel fissuring. She uses preparations up and around 50% or more for short periods. She also provides a take home preparation of 10% glycolic acid for daily use between treatments.

There is ample evidence in the cosmetic medicine and dermatology literature supporting AHAs as being far superior to urea and the like.

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Thanks, more information would be very useful, do you or your wife know where can I find training courses and/or products?
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There is ample evidence in the cosmetic medicine and dermatology literature supporting AHAs as being far superior to urea and the like.

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Hi all,
Has anyone heard of using fruit acid peels for the treatment of hyperkeratosis? I hope you can help with this one - the explanation may be a bit long winded, but I'll get there eventually.
A local beautician who rents a room to an Aesthetic Practitioner described observing a client who had 'excessive hard skin' on his feet, having them wrapped with a fruit acid preparation for a short time, which upon removal enabled the practictioner to remove the hard skin with gentle scraping with a wooden tongue depressor.
Needless to say the client was impressed, as was the beautician. She wanted to know if I offered the same service. I have spoken to another Aethetic practitioner who seems to think that the strength of the fruit acid would have be quite a bit stronger than that used for facial peels, but could offer no more information than that.
Hope you can help, as I do have one or two clients myself who would benefit from the service.
Jacqui

'Callus Peel' is the product name, they use it at the well being centre next door to me.

http://www.beauty-select.co.uk/

What are the main ingredients?
Aqua, Glycerin, Nonoxynol-12, Carbomer, Ethanol, Sodium Hydroxide, Tataric Acid, Lactic Acid, Pyroglutamic Acid, Ethoxy Diglycol. Don't be alarmed by these as we use AHA's (Alpha Hydroxy Acid) on our face!

Could be a good product for us to use, I asked next door and they only have appointments for it very rarely but for us it may be another alternative to blades or - I'm opening a high street Clinic soon, just taken on a shop in a busy parade, opposite a GPs surgery and between two pharmacies/chemists, so this might be a nice earner that a receptionist could do, no blades involved.

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Could be a good product for us to use, I asked next door and they only have appointments for it very rarely but for us it may be another alternative to blades or - I'm opening a high street Clinic soon, just taken on a shop in a busy parade, opposite a GPs surgery and between two pharmacies/chemists, so this might be a nice earner that a receptionist could do, no blades involved.

My thoughts exactly.
Thanks for the link, will check it out now.
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This thread was very interesting. The product could be useful for patients who are high risk, I might get some and try it out on my mum, who is diabetic after being the first person to survive the Wipple operation and has mild diabetic neuropathy, plus dry callused heels with slight fissures. If I do go ahead, I'll let you all know the results.

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Thanks, would be interesting to see how you get on. I had got the perfect friend to try it on, she had dry cracked fissures, but since I supplied her with insoles - guess what - she no longer has them! Awaiting the next client to walk through the door who might be an ideal candidate. I particularly like the idea of using it on dry cracked heels because I always find them so fiddly to do, I can never get the client in the right position for long enough without either them or me becoming uncomfortable, particularly if it's a dom visit. I'm also very much aware that beauticians are charging high prices for this sort of treatment, and the customer doesn't bat an eyelid over the cost!
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hi i remember reading about a treatment in the past two years called medi pedi whihc sounds similar (i think) maybe that'swhat it is?
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I am really enjoying this discussion as I have recently been wondering if there were any chemical treatments. There is a product in Australia called Milky Feet . I do not know very much about it other than what I have been told. A few clients have said it works wonders - but you need to leave it on at home for about an hour I think . I noticed an ad in the window of a local beauticians about a foot peel and was wondering why we pods don't use it. I think I will do some and keep you posted. I don't think they are necessarily fruit acid peels though.
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Hi again,

I mentioned Milky Feet in my last post but it seems they only supply to chemists. There is another compnay though with an acid peel at www.beautyide.com.au. They are selling 10 peels for $90 which is the salon pack. If it decreases that back breaking heel debridement I am seriously considering it. I hope this helps
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If it decreases that back breaking heel debridement I am seriously considering it. I hope this helps
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I have often thought it would be really useful if there was a podiatry couch that could invert the patient into a prone position heels up. Designed along the lines of something between the Nemesis ride at Alton Tower and an Zorbing Ball, but with the feet out.

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'Callus Peel' is the product name, they use it at the well being centre next door to me.

http://www.beauty-select.co.uk/

What are the main ingredients?
Aqua, Glycerin, Nonoxynol-12, Carbomer, Ethanol, Sodium Hydroxide, Tataric Acid, Lactic Acid, Pyroglutamic Acid, Ethoxy Diglycol. Don't be alarmed by these as we use AHA's (Alpha Hydroxy Acid) on our face!

Could be a good product for us to use

Regards Dave
Has anyone used the "callus peel" that Dave mentions in his thread. It's just it seems like a good product for my patient who has tried most things and I noticed Just Care Podiatry suppliers have started selling it.

I have a patient who is suffering with hyperkeratosis and painful fissures on her heels and base of hallux. She says she has tried most things and after reading this thread I thought Callus Peel might be an option. I am slightly concerned as her skin is very dry over the entire surface of her plantar palm, I had considered Palmoplantar psoriasis as a DD, as it has been a chronic condition since childhood, but she doesn't have the same characteristics.

After debriding or using callus peel, I'm thinking of suggesting Liquiheel on her painful fissures.

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