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Back in the 1970's, when I first qualified, there were plenty of War Pensioners from the 1st and 2nd World Wars who needed chiropody. Some twice a month. The one's I saw were mostly simple debridement, usually of callous around scar tissue, and palliative padding to keep them comfortable until their next visit. Of course their nails were cut and filed too. 30 or 40 of these cases on a private practice books provided (in no particular order) a financial cushion for the practice, professional help for the pensioners, and of course they were (mostly) a very interesting bunch of people to chat with.
Treatment, by State Registered Chiropodists only, was paid for by the Ministry of Pensions.

I had occasion to look up the current provision for War Pensioners recently as part of a fact-find for personal injury claims.
The official document which sets out provision Provision of chiropody treatment for war pensioners is held in the National Archives, and is closed until 2024.

If anyone knows how to gain access legally, or has a copy of this document I'd be very grateful for access.

Provision of chiropody for War Pensioners is now made, it seems, only for those who have lost an arm. In other words to cut their nais and provide basic foot care which they would otherwise be able to do themselves.

Obviously there are not the War Pensioners around today that there were in the 70's. Good thing too. But for those that are around.............
What about palliative footcare by chiropodists/podiatrists?
Do we no longer do this, or are todays War Pensioners no longer being discharged from medical care with stumps, pedal scarring, and nail hypertrophy?
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Back in the 1970's, when I first qualified, there were plenty of War Pensioners from the 1st and 2nd World Wars who needed chiropody. Some twice a month. The one's I saw were mostly simple debridement, usually of callous around scar tissue, and palliative padding to keep them comfortable until their next visit. Of course their nails were cut and filed too. 30 or 40 of these cases on a private practice books provided (in no particular order) a financial cushion for the practice, professional help for the pensioners, and of course they were (mostly) a very interesting bunch of people to chat with.
Treatment, by State Registered Chiropodists only, was paid for by the Ministry of Pensions.

I had occasion to look up the current provision for War Pensioners recently as part of a fact-find for personal injury claims.
The official document which sets out provision Provision of chiropody treatment for war pensioners is held in the National Archives, and is closed until 2024.

If anyone knows how to gain access legally, or has a copy of this document I'd be very grateful for access.

Provision of chiropody for War Pensioners is now made, it seems, only for those who have lost an arm. In other words to cut their nais and provide basic foot care which they would otherwise be able to do themselves.

Obviously there are not the War Pensioners around today that there were in the 70's. Good thing too. But for those that are around.............
What about palliative footcare by chiropodists/podiatrists?
Do we no longer do this, or are todays War Pensioners no longer being discharged from medical care with stumps, pedal scarring, and nail hypertrophy?
Hi David

I still Tx a war pensioner as I have for the last 22 years. He was machine gunned in Normandy in WW2.

I haven't a copy of the paper you are looking for but I can tell you , a couple of years ago(2010) the payment and running of the War pensioners was transfered direct to the MOD from the war pensions agency.

The first I knew of it was when I submitted my claim, a load of instructions forms and frankly bureaucratic garbage came to me by the barrowload. I spent so long sending emails phoning etc and talking to very nice people ( who didn't have much idea) but tried to sort it out. I was passed along to this "person" who instructed me to look up codes and fill out forms in triplicate and I refused. I pointed out the information they want is already on the form for the pensions agency and they didn't pay enough for that amount of my time. He said unless I did fill out his forms I wouldn't get paid, I replied then the pensioners family will go to the national press with the story they backed down I still Tx the wonderful old gentleman who incidentally last year had a piece of shrapnel removed from his bladder after all these years.

He has become a personal friend but unfortunately is now failing mentally so I may have to hand him back if they wont accept his signature on the paperwork or he cant get to my surgery ( he is too far away for a dom visit).

I agree totally the "Vets" that are returning disabled should be given proper podiatry care but be warned you will be working for next to nothing on what the pay rates from the MOD are now.

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Hi David

I still Tx a war pensioner as I have for the last 22 years. He was machine gunned in Normandy in WW2.

I haven't a copy of the paper you are looking for but I can tell you , a couple of years ago(2010) the payment and running of the War pensioners was transfered direct to the MOD from the war pensions agency.

The first I knew of it was when I submitted my claim, a load of instructions forms and frankly bureaucratic garbage came to me by the barrowload. I spent so long sending emails phoning etc and talking to very nice people ( who didn't have much idea) but tried to sort it out. I was passed along to this "person" who instructed me to look up codes and fill out forms in triplicate and I refused. I pointed out the information they want is already on the form for the pensions agency and they didn't pay enough for that amount of my time. He said unless I did fill out his forms I wouldn't get paid, I replied then the pensioners family will go to the national press with the story they backed down I still Tx the wonderful old gentleman who incidentally last year had a piece of shrapnel removed from his bladder after all these years.

He has become a personal friend but unfortunately is now failing mentally so I may have to hand him back if they wont accept his signature on the paperwork or he cant get to my surgery ( he is too far away for a dom visit).

I agree totally the "Vets" that are returning disabled should be given proper podiatry care but be warned you will be working for next to nothing on what the pay rates from the MOD are now.

Cheers
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Hi Del, thanks for replying.

It's clear an expediency move by Works and Pensions to get rid of a burden on the Pensions pot. The MOD don't know how palliative care can help in these cases.

I was looking for a precedent for building in palliative podiatry care (at normal fee rates) into damages in medico-legal cases. Feedback from the legal side seems to be that as long as there is a precedent the actual document availability does not matter.

Cheers,

David
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