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Biase is like a cancer on this website.. he is just taking up way too much of everyone's time for all the wrong reasons. He has brought absolutely nothing to any of the forums he has contributed to except his own narrow little opinion. I think the administrators of Podiatry Arena should take a look at this because it is now the Biase forum with little of any educational merit and just a whole lot of posturing and arrogance from the french canadian physiotherapist who knows everything about everything. this is now a massive turn off and a total waste of precious time. Who the hell can be bothered?
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I have also given up on responding to Blaise after initially thinking that he had something useful to say. For a man who continually says that he is here on Podiatry Arena just to learn, he simply doesn't listen.

However, the one thing that bothers me the most about Blaise is that he has the egotistical impudence to insult a whole group of medical professionals, many of whom have far more clinical experience and education than he does, by suggesting that the treatments they are using are simply being done to make money. This behavior from a medical professional demonstrates an arrogant lack of respect for our profession and will prevent me from ever wasting my time responding to him again.

My only regret is that I actually did waste my time trying to reason with him over the past few months. His agenda obviously prevents him from learning here on Podiatry Arena, regardless of what he continually claims. I will be a very happy man once he stops polluting the pages of Podiatry Arena with his minimalist propaganda.
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Interesting, I often use what I call "box taping" the heel in cases where I believe there is a compression related element. Squeeze the fat pad mediolaterally with the sports tape and reduce the fat pad flattening and thinning upon weight bearing.
I can't even remember why I started doing it!...
Goodaye Robin, same here. Fairly certain I started after reading a thread on PA.
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On what planet do we dispense orthotics without shoes, custom shoes, shoes with modifications etc?
I wish I could do this....
Where I work there is a fair percentage of the population that never wear enclosed shoes... just sandals. Understandable when the from May to October it is rarely below 40C during the day and 32C at night...
Actually I don't know why I should be concerned as they are already 'minimalist' they shouldn't have any problems...
Wait... why have they come to see me then?? hmmmm
I guess the posture fairies haven't made it to them yet...
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Biase is like a cancer on this website.. he is just taking up way too much of everyone's time for all the wrong reasons. He has brought absolutely nothing to any of the forums he has contributed to except his own narrow little opinion. I think the administrators of Podiatry Arena should take a look at this because it is now the Biase forum with little of any educational merit and just a whole lot of posturing and arrogance from the french canadian physiotherapist who knows everything about everything. this is now a massive turn off and a total waste of precious time. Who the hell can be bothered?
i am out.
Thanks for the compliment Salmon,
I understand I'm maybe a cancer for companies that tell to everybody that they are evidence based oriented and are represented by pseudo scientific that expose false informations, do cherry picking, and lie to retailers in exchange of $$...

Will do a deal. If more that 5 people "thanks" your comment, I will retired for 1 month...
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I understand I'm maybe a cancer for companies that tell to everybody that they are evidence based oriented and are represented by pseudo scientific that expose false informations, do cherry picking, and lie to retailers in exchange of $$...
Seriously??? methinks you need to look up the word 'irony'...
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I wish I could do this....
Where I work there is a fair percentage of the population that never wear enclosed shoes... just sandals. Understandable when the from May to October it is rarely below 40C during the day and 32C at night...
Actually I don't know why I should be concerned as they are already 'minimalist' they shouldn't have any problems...
Wait... why have they come to see me then?? hmmmm
I guess the posture fairies haven't made it to them yet...
Craig, I'm intrigued about one thing. Do you think there is less podiatrist consultation (and foot problems) compare to Canada (more shoes, less barefoot, ...). I know we have probably no data on that but what your sincere idea?

more infection?
less hallux valgus and hammer toe?
less metatarsalgia ans achilles tendinopathy?

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Aren't you doing the exact same thing with promoting minimalism? There is no evidence for that either.
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Aren't you doing the exact same thing with promoting minimalism? There is no evidence for that either.
I don't agree. I have no financial interest to promote minimalism... I can teach my course everywhere around the world and defend maximalist shoes and the result will be the same. The success of my course have nothing to do with minimalism that represent a small part of the course. I was defending this at the beginning, long time before you were speaking about that... and probably that many people don't come on my course now because they categorize me like a bias minimalist defender... on the same idea debating on this blog certainly don't bring people on my course.

The speech of Salmon is very demagogic. We can be not agree on some points, teaching what we thing is good and bad, trying to explain with available science mix to experience... but we cannot spend false informations like Salmon did to retailers. Nobody comment the video I comment of Salmon, but it's for me really dishonest to transmit this false informations like a truth. http://www.therunningclinic.ca/blog/...eech-analysed/

I debate with you in Melbourne and I don't have the same opinion (that I have with Slamon) because you were intellectually honest (even if you opinion was at the opposite than mine). Do you consider that I was intellectually dishonest? That I'm a pseudo scientific that expose false informations, do cherry picking, and lie to retailers in exchange of $$? You have the debate taped on video, maybe people here can judge by themselves?
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Craig, I'm intrigued about one thing. Do you think there is less podiatrist consultation (and foot problems) compare to Canada (more shoes, less barefoot, ...). I know we have probably no data on that but what your sincere idea?

more infection?
less hallux valgus and hammer toe?
less metatarsalgia ans achilles tendinopathy?

wait your opinion
Impossible to say.
I see plenty of all of these.
The only thing I would say I do not see so much of here are onychomycoses.
If you are genuinely interested in my opinion then I would say that constant flat regular surfaces are much greater source of problems than footwear... something that our ancestors did not evolve to walk on.
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Blaise, lets try it a different way:

If you go back through the last two years of Runners World magazine and look at the advertisements for running shoes, you see no claims made about injuries made by the manufacturers of BBS; ie they make no claims that can not be supported with the evidence.

However, you you look at the advertisements by the manufacturers of minimalist shoes, you see many claims about injuries (ie things like "run in these shoes and you will get less injuries"), when there is no evidence to support that. Is it acceptable to you that the minimalist companies should be able to lie like this? These companies are doing exactly what you accuse the BBS companies of doing. Why are you not also criticizing them?

Why is it that the only current class action lawsuits over the injury claims are against minimalist manufacturers and not the manufacturers of the BBS?
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Blaise, lets try it a different way:

If you go back through the last two years of Runners World magazine and look at the advertisements for running shoes, you see no claims made about injuries made by the manufacturers of BBS; ie they make no claims that can not be supported with the evidence.

However, you you look at the advertisements by the manufacturers of minimalist shoes, you see many claims about injuries (ie things like "run in these shoes and you will get less injuries"), when there is no evidence to support that. Is it acceptable to you that the minimalist companies should be able to lie like this? These companies are doing exactly what you accuse the BBS companies of doing. Why are you not also criticizing them?
Sincerely, It's just playing with the words. Consumer don't see the difference... they are convince that BBS prevent running injuries. BBS companies are just smarter and prudent with words they use now. Ex: ASICS have a tone of publicity to tell people that their shoes are more stable, more cushion, more supportive (supposing that it's for deceasing injury)... their promote that their shoes are recognized by podiatrist USA... they have a "doctor" that teach to retailers that their shoes DECREASE injuries and minimalist shoes INCREASE injuries... this same guy tell to all rep, retailer and professional that they invest a lot of money in the R&D department and that their shoes are the best to correct biomechanics, absorb shock, AND prevent injuries ....
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Blaise, lets try it a different way:

If you go back through the last two years of Runners World magazine and look at the advertisements for running shoes, you see no claims made about injuries made by the manufacturers of BBS; ie they make no claims that can not be supported with the evidence.

However, you you look at the advertisements by the manufacturers of minimalist shoes, you see many claims about injuries (ie things like "run in these shoes and you will get less injuries"), when there is no evidence to support that. Is it acceptable to you that the minimalist companies should be able to lie like this? These companies are doing exactly what you accuse the BBS companies of doing. Why are you not also criticizing them?

Why is it that the only current class action lawsuits over the injury claims are against minimalist manufacturers and not the manufacturers of the BBS?
Craig,
my minutes are counted ... there is 4 "thanks" for Salmon post. If you can answer my last questions :

- I debate with you in Melbourne and I don't have the same opinion (that I have with Slamon) because you were intellectually honest (even if you opinion was at the opposite than mine). Do you consider that I was intellectually dishonest? That I'm a pseudo scientific that expose false informations, do cherry picking, and lie to retailers in exchange of $$? You have the debate taped on video, maybe people here can judge by themselves? -

Also, what do you thing of the content that Salmon bring in Austin during the other debate


After that I will retired, like that podiatrist on this blog will be able to convince themself that their practice are the best, that all other idea not in the church of othotics are bad. It's always more easy to stop thinking at the place where we are comfortable with our own practice... changed is sometime painful...
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Impossible to say.
I see plenty of all of these.
The only thing I would say I do not see so much of here are onychomycoses.
If you are genuinely interested in my opinion then I would say that constant flat regular surfaces are much greater source of problems than footwear... something that our ancestors did not evolve to walk on.
Hummm ,
not agree that surface are a bigger problem than shoes... and flat regular surfaces don't justify BBS.
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my minutes are counted ... there is 4 "thanks" for Salmon post.
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The only thing I would say I do not see so much of here are onychomycoses.
Craig,

Off thread, but since you mentioned it; environmental (occlusive footwear) conditions are one of many factors associated with infection of those pesky, opportunistic dermatophytes.

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Sincerely, It's just playing with the words. Consumer don't see the difference... they are convince that BBS prevent running injuries. BBS companies are just smarter and prudent with words they use now. Ex: ASICS have a tone of publicity to tell people that their shoes are more stable, more cushion, more supportive (supposing that it's for deceasing injury)... their promote that their shoes are recognized by podiatrist USA... they have a "doctor" that teach to retailers that their shoes DECREASE injuries and minimalist shoes INCREASE injuries... this same guy tell to all rep, retailer and professional that they invest a lot of money in the R&D department and that their shoes are the best to correct biomechanics, absorb shock, AND prevent injuries ....
So what your saying here is Minimalist shoe companies are dumb and have very little to publicity to promote their product, aren't they the same companies producing a variety of different products, time to take a break Blaise.
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OK.. took almost nothing to get 5 thanks to my posting Biase.. your arrogance finally got you.. now.. how many do we need for you to p..s off forever? Say.. 10?
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OK.. took almost nothing to get 5 thanks to my posting Biase.. your arrogance finally got you.. now.. how many do we need for you to p..s off forever? Say.. 10?
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