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What is a Hick's Test? Is there a Hick's Test?

Discussion in 'Biomechanics, Sports and Foot orthoses' started by bonbons*n*candies, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. Aidan Hobbs

    Aidan Hobbs Active Member

    Didn't even post the images with it. How lazy...:D Thanks for that BRo

    So from my understanding, the Dynamic Hicks test is concerned with the ability of the first ray to resist pronatory forces acting upon it during midstance...?

    Would a positive Hicks test suggest a supinatus?

    Would this then differ to locking the MTJ and testing to see if a FF Varus is reducible by applying downward pressure to the first ray?
     
  2. Em3

    Em3 Member

    Haha, them there are fighting words :boxing:

    It looks good, but non-stiffness of the first ray doesn't necessarily cause a supinatus, does it?
    A poorly functioning windlass could be due to a forefoot valgus (or very mobile forefooted) person causing a positive Hicks, no?
    Soo... would the repeated failure of the windlass to provide a rigid lever cause the valgus deformity to reduce to the appearance of a neutrally aligned forefoot to rearfoot? A 'supinatus' with respect to the foot's real neutral, rather than the apparent.

    I don't know whether I'm trying to argue that you're wrong or if I'm trying to get my head to understand that you're right, but I think you should conduct some research on it, Ada, I hear podiatry schools have an abundance of students with foot problems. :eek:
     
  3. cab31

    cab31 Member

    I think what aidan is saying could have some relevance. Excess pronation can stop the first ray from plantar flexing (due to GRF) thereby stoping the first MPJ from reaching its full ROM. Supinatus results from similar pathomechanics and hence could go hand in hand.

    I think all in all though this thread has merely displayed that the true jack's test is a far more widespread and accepted test which would be beneficial to adopt in order to converse with other practitioners.
     
  4. Em3

    Em3 Member

    Nobody said that we aren't already using Jacks, competently and critically. It is the point of the assignment we've been tasked with.

    I don't think it's fair to say that just because a test is 'accepted' and more widely used that it is more useful than another, because every theory, every test and every diagnosis had its beginnings somewhere, with somebody else saying "pfft, I've never heard of it so it can't be very good".
    New ides and concepts challenge assumed knowledge, even if that knowledge has been hard-won. Isn't that something useful to converse with other practitioners about? New tests and justifications to mull over? To move forward in understanding, diagnosing and treating?

    And lastly...if I'm not mistaken, Jack's and Dynamic Hicks test for two vastly different things.
     
  5. dougpotter

    dougpotter Active Member

    Great information that many appear to have not known. Thank you.
     
  6. CamWhite

    CamWhite Active Member

    In Texas, the Hick's test is used to determine if you are really a redneck.:D
     
  7. SANFORD ROSENFELD D.P.M.

    SANFORD ROSENFELD D.P.M. Welcome New Poster

    THERE IS NO SUCH ANIMAL
     
  8. Dieter Fellner

    Dieter Fellner Well-Known Member

    in case anyone else out there is looking for this ....
     

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  9. agwpodiatry

    agwpodiatry Welcome New Poster

    Maybe this will help --- article is below.

    testing first ray mobility with the windlass mechanism engaged via the ?dynamic Hicks test.?

    One would do this by dorsiflexing the hallux while evaluating first ray mobility.
    The goal of this testing is to gain insight into how the first ray would function during propulsion with the windlass engaged.


    http://www.podiatrytoday.com/article/4126
     
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