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Old 23rd June 2008, 04:16 AM
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Treadmills. Beloved of gait analysts and people in sports shops who read a book once. Often used to facilitate assessment.

But is walking/ running on a treadmill representative of walking in the real world?

A quick search of japma shows divided opinion.

K Lemke, MW Cornwall, TG McPoil, and D Schuit
Comparison of rearfoot motion in overground versus treadmill walking
J Am Podiatr Med Assoc 1995 85: 243-248

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there was no statistically significant difference between the two conditions on any of the variables measured.
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B Van Gheluwe, J Smekens, and P Roosen
Electrodynographic evaluation of the foot during treadmill versus overground locomotion
J Am Podiatr Med Assoc 1994 84: 598-606

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Statistical analysis revealed foot pressure characteristics as measured with a Electrodynogram during walking and running to alter significantly when using a treadmill
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Sandy S. Sajko and Michael R. Pierrynowski
Influence of Treadmill Design on Rearfoot Pronation During Gait at Different Speeds
J Am Podiatr Med Assoc 2005 95: 475-480.

Show that there are significant differences between two designs of treadmill.

My personal view is that a significant propulsive element is lost in treadmill walking as the body does not have to overcome inertia to acheive and maintain forward motion. I would also suggest that most people could run faster and longer on a treadmill than on the road.

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But is walking/ running on a treadmill representative of walking in the real world? ......My personal view is that a significant propulsive element is lost in treadmill walking as the body does not have to overcome inertia to acheive and maintain forward motion.
Of course there are differences that any treadmill gait analysis have to acknowledge. However, most of what I look for on a treadmill are symmetries between sides, so those differences are not as great an issue.
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Default Re: Treadmill analysis

I am in agreement that there are limitations in adequately assessing gait mechanics on a treadmill. Personally, I'd love to have a chance to play with the digital walking path that is used in Western Carolina U's PT Dept. I've seen a couple of their analysis discs, and it is an amazingly effective tool.

On another note, I generally recommend to patients to limit their time exercising on treadmills. In addition to the highly repetitive motions these devices encourage (good or bad), I find that they can exacerbate a variety of forefoot conditions due to the constant uphill grade.

As for seeking symmetry, that can usually be addressed quickly and accurately through assessment of footwear sole wear patterns. Gait analysis often validates what already exists in those sole patterns.
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Once read somewhere that putting a 1 or 2% incline on the treadmill results in a better approximation to non-treadmill walking- don't know if this is based on fact.

What you got to ask yourself is this: is it better to have my runner on a treadmill so I can get some good slow-mo or have 'em in my 20 foot corridor, accelerating and decelerating and avoiding the "obstacles" in their path- how "normal" is the gait they obtain here?- normal for that environment right? Same as treadmill running is normal for that environment.
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My personal view is that a significant propulsive element is lost in treadmill walking as the body does not have to overcome inertia to acheive and maintain forward motion. I would also suggest that most people could run faster and longer on a treadmill than on the road.
Sorry I can't agree with you.
If walking on a treadmill and measuring the speed relative to the treadmill mat, the speed would be the same as on the ground. If walking on a treadmill and measuring the speed relative to the earth, the velocity would be 0, and therefore slower than being on the ground.
You just don't go very far on a treadmill per unit time.

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My personal view is that a significant propulsive element is lost in treadmill walking as the body does not have to overcome inertia to acheive and maintain forward motion. I would also suggest that most people could run faster and longer on a treadmill than on the road.

What say you?

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If you don't propulse on the treadmill you fall off of the back end. You have to move relative to the belt of the treadmill. Now, if the treadmill belt doesn't move with close to constant velocity, then it will be different than overground running/ walking.

One good analogy that I read once is there a difference in walking on an airplane in the direction of travel versus opposite direction of travel. Even though the airplane is moving relative to the earth, in terms of walking you only have to look at the relative velocity of the person to the airplane. You only have to look at the velocity of the person to the treadmill.

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Default Re: Treadmill analysis

Robert

Like Eric said there is inertia to over come. But inertia is formally a ficticious force and is relative to the reference frame. IE there is no inertial force in the reference frame of the ground since there is no relative acceleration but there is acceleration relative to the treadmill.




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Once read somewhere that putting a 1 or 2% incline on the treadmill results in a better approximation to non-treadmill walking- don't know if this is based on fact.

I believe the 1% gradient is supposed to increase energy expenditure to mimick wind resistance. At least that is what we were taught during my exercise science degree. I'd say it's more relevant for physiological exercise testing, rather than biomechanical.
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Rohan,

I would expect a 1% gradient to slightly increase the dorsiflexion moment at the ankle (TC) joint, and possibly result in increased tensile loading forces within the Tendo-achilles/triceps surae complex. This may then have obvious biomechanical implications?
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I would suggest that you control the controllable - make sure your treadmill is seated square to the planet and perpendicular to the camera, make sure that camera and it’s view is in line with the centre of the treadmill.

I find that one of the key determinates in replicating normal gait behaviour is finding the clients natural cadence. It’s normally when the client looks up and relaxes into the run/walk. If you stand close to the treadmill and talk with your client - find out if they are happy with the speed etc, they are more likely to relax. Once they are comfortable with the environment I find you are more likely to see a replication of the foots natural signature.
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Rohan,

I would expect a 1% gradient to slightly increase the dorsiflexion moment at the ankle (TC) joint, and possibly result in increased tensile loading forces within the Tendo-achilles/triceps surae complex. This may then have obvious biomechanical implications?
I have no doubt that the incline could have biomechanical implications. We only ever used the 1% gradient for maximal tests (VO2Max) with elite athletes. I never went down the exercise physiology career path, so my only experience is under protocols provided by lecturers.

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Effect of speed on kinematic, kinetic, electromyographic and energetic reference values during treadmill walking.
Stoquart G, Detrembleur C, Lejeune T.
Neurophysiol Clin. 2008 Apr;38(2):105-16.
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OBJECTIVE: Evaluation of normal and pathological gait on the level ground has drawbacks that could be overcome by walking on a treadmill. The present work was designed to assess the feasibility of extended gait analysis on a treadmill allowing multiple steps recording at a constant speed in young healthy subjects. It also aimed to provide speed-specific kinematic, kinetic, electromyographic and energetic reference values.

METHOD: Twelve healthy volunteers (23 +/- two years) walked on a force measuring treadmill at six speeds (1-6 k mh(-1)). Kinematics and kinetics were analysed at the hip, knee and ankle. Electromyographic muscle activity timing of quadriceps femoris, biceps femoris, tibialis anterior and lateral gastrocnemius was recorded. The energy cost was computed from oxygen consumption measurement.

RESULTS: All variables were speed-dependent. Kinematics and kinetics peaks amplitude increased and occurred earlier during the walking cycle with increasing walking speed. Muscle activity timing also changed with speed, although the number of bursts remained constant. The energetic cost presented a U-shaped curve, with minimal values around 4 km h(-1). Data were compared to overground walking data obtained by several authors: all results, except kinetic ones, were similar, turning down the thought that biomechanics of treadmill and overground walking could be different.

CONCLUSION:This study provides reference values for normal and pathological walking on treadmill and allows speed-dependent comparison between subjects.
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