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Old 8th January 2006, 04:32 AM
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CEM, Thanks for your detailed Response, it was very illuminating. I agree there is a place for Private Footwear Fitting Shops. I see from your posts your experience comes from Ski shops, most of which already offer Specialist fitting and "Custom Made" insoles

I did see your post on the Runners World Article and the discussion it provoked.

OK "lets transport ourselves 20 years into the future..." Are you suggesting that you start a campaign now so that in 20 years time the C.Ped Qualification will be Grandparented in. Interesting Strategy.

It is totally different to Podiatry to which I presume you allude. There are 6 C.Peds in the UK at the moment and I have great respect for the two I have met who are also trained Podiatrists, Pedorthics is a great benefit to their practices. Is that number enough to lobby Government and the DofH. Where will the money come from for the campaign for HPC Registration. I would think that without that HPC Registration there will not be a ground swell of recruitment. Chicken and Egg. No Numbers/ No need for Registration. Or is there something we don't know?

With the existing Society of Shoe Fitter's Courses and the new University Post Grad Footwear Courses, is the separate C.Ped Qualification needed in the UK?

You are right that the training in the UK for Podiatry has been a mixed bag but where would you put Pedorthics as a Clinical Profession? As I said in my last post Clinical Footwear Fitting is a great potential Specialisation for Podiatry and some Podiatrists do already stock footwear or work with good Shoe shops and they are ethically free to do so. There are also some fantastic Orthopaedic Shoe makers who work with Orthotists and I would hate to see them dismissed so easily as in a previous post on this thread.

Perhaps you could explain some of the Pedorthics training in terms of Clinical and tutotrial hours before Qualification to give an idea of the comparison to UK training of Podiatry as you describe in your last post. I believe there are differences between training in the States and Canada. Would training for the UK be different too?

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Old 8th January 2006, 11:13 AM
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Jamie,

I think you read me very wrongly,
you seem to have an opinion very differnt to mine in many ways, whilst i respect that this is your opinion and only that, i find it hard to respond to someone who clearly states they have no respect for any C. Ped who has not previously trained in podiatry. i feel very sorry that you take this view.

the following may clear up a couple of things

1)i was not suggesting that pedorthics was an equivent to or a substitute to podiatry
2) as far as clinical training, a C.Ped is trained to recognise biomechanical issues, assess them and refer to a pod as required, they are trained in materials and manufacture of orthoses, the other major area is fitting and modification of footwear. the link below shows you the new sylibus
http://www.cpeds.org/associations/2...BCPCiriculm.pdf

3) training is not available as yet in the UK Training is taken in the US where there is a requirement of 120 hours of lecture time on various subjects, this is being increased, and will become an associates Degree (2 year) course by 2010...... however anyone going into this training without prior knowledge or at least swallowing several books on the subject would firstly struggle with terminology and have very little chance of passing the exam

4)as far as HPC was concerned i was merely suggesting that the same thing may happenn as did to podiatry, practitioners wih lesser qualifications being gathered under the same umbrella as those with a more academic qualification.

I don't really want to discuss this anymore as i feel it going away from the original post .....HAS ANYONE HEARD OF PEDORTHICS

which seemed to had gained some good responses until you decided to malign it.

can i ask one question, you state you have attended various seminars on the subject but what is your qualification??
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Dear CEM,

I am sorry you feel that I have maligned you, it was not my intention and I do not believe I have denigrated your Profession, I believe you have misrepresented my position and that my points are valid but we must agree to differ and I apologise for upsetting you.

My main point was that the UK is a much more compact Market than in North America with different commercial drivers and limits on growth. There are already a number of options for Clinical Footwear Provision in the UK and there are new developments within existing structures. Traditional shortfalls in service are being addressed and Clinical Practices are expanding both in the NHS and in the Private Sector, these are interesting times and I will continue to support all Professions involved in Clinical Footwear Fitting including Pedorthics, as Ihave done for the last 15 years.

You are obviously very passionate about your vocation and the best thing is for me to wish you the best of luck in your career for the future.

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Hello All,

I have been following this discussion with great interest. For the past couple of years I've been working full-time for a shoe manufacturer, and one of the things it has highlighted is the extremely limited information I recieved on footwear as part of my undergraduate training. Whilst I can now competently evaluate and fit retail footwear, I certainly wouldn't pretend to be an expert on fitting stock and bespoke footwear. I have nothing but praise for those in the profession who have developed specialist skills in this area.

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How many people out there (in the UK) have heard of the field of Pedorthics, there are only six of us in the uk and i am interested in finding out who knows about us and what we do.... I will leave this one open to comments before i explain any more to those who do not know :) :)
Hi,

I was searching about pedorthics and came across with this page. I am scholl tranied, hpc registered chiropodist and i would like to become C.Ped, could you tell me how did you do your training please?
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Hi Zuhal,

the training requirements have just changed, i spent a few weeks in NYC at the eneslow pedorthic institute and the new york college of podiatric medicine, since then the requiements have been split up into thre levels, best thing to do is contact BCP at http://www.cpeds.org
they are the body responsible for certification and can advise you of the most up to date requirements
PFA the pedorthic footwear association http://www.pedorthics.org are a membership organisation and can help with locations of courses

hope this helps a bit

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