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Old 24th February 2006, 01:30 PM
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Dear All,

Looking at the jobs section in the SCP journal this month March i was surprised at the lack of jobs.

Also even more surprised at the use of Band 5 for a senior 2 with a min of 3 years post grad.

Surely this should be a minimum of band 6.

Or is this proof of the down grading of Sen 2 posts under agenda for change.

In my understanding Band 5 is for recent graduates who are on a 1-2 year induction and rotation. When competent to manage own caseload should be Band 6.

So poor pay may be a future of the NHS.

But really where are the jobs???????

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David...I graduated last summer and having lived away from home and of course with student debt I decided to move back with the parents. I am from the North West and have been looking for work only in this region. I have joined every possible locum agency there is (who can't find me any work!), I have spoken to possibly every practitioner with an ad in the yellow pages re- work (who dont want to know!)...and only now I have seen 3 ads for NHS posts crop up in my area! I have applied for ALL...am now also concerned about my lack of NHS exp since graduation and also pay bands. I perhaps naively assumed I would get a job 'easily' and could work up to a band 6 posting eventually. As u mentioned Band 5 is for equivalent Senior 2 again with '3yrs post grad experience'. So where do the new grads like me who haven't gone straight from Uni to a job, fit in??
I really am getting disheartened about where my career is heading before it has even started!
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I think with many unwritten spending "freezes" in NHS Trusts until the new financial year, this month would not be a good time to look for a job. Things tend to pick up in the summer.
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The unwritten "freeze" on jobs should be no surprise:
NHS '£750m in the red' this year
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There may not be an official freeze on jobs, but the pressure is on the pay:
The Financial Times are reporting:
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Mounting Treasury impatience with the independent review bodies that recommend pay for more than 1.8 public sector employees may begin to threaten their future, according to Income Data Services, the leading analysts of public and private sector pay.

Publication of review body reports covering more than 1m National Health Service staff, along with those for top civil servants, judges, prison officers, senior army ranks and MPs is being held up by a government row over whether doctors and nurses should be given an above-inflation pay rise this year.

Some ministers are understood to be arguing that there should be a freeze on pay for NHS staff, a proposition that Patricia Hewitt, the health secretary, is resisting.

The health service is facing a record overspend and the above-inflation increases recommended by the doctors, dentists and nurses' pay review bodies would make this harder to address. In addition, many staff have enjoyed big earnings increases in recent years from pay restructuring and new contracts, all of which have come in over budget.

This has left NHS doctors and nurses among the best paid in the world, according to the Treasury's analysis.

In the year to last September, there was a huge near 50,000 increase in NHS staff, which is only just beginning to be offset by the thousands of jobs being cut by NHS trusts as they seek to balance their books. Employment has fallen in public sector construction, social work and the armed forces in the past year.

Producing its annual review of public sector pay, IDS said the government, and the Treasury in particular, is now "clearly seeking greater co-ordination and centralised control of pay across the public sector".

"It looks as though we are entering another 'stop' cycle for public sector pay and recruitment," said Alastair Hatchett, head of pay at IDS. Between 1993 and 1999 public sector employment fell, with pay rising more slowly than in the private sector.

But since 1999 that trend has been reversed, although base-line public sector pay increases are now moderating, he said.....
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Dear Mr Brown, from your Budget this year I would like . . . Mar 20 2006
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TRUDI KEAST has always watched the pennies. Now the 40-year-old single mother of sons Matthew, six, and Ben, nine, is having to watch them even more closely.

The part-time podiatrist has just seen her weekly working hours cut from 22 to 18 due to Government enforced NHS changes.

And while her drop in hours may not seem a lot, she says it will seriously affect her take-home pay.

"I am in receipt of Working Family Tax Credit, and, as it's based on what you were paid the previous year, any increase due to my reduced hours won't kick-in until 2007, so I'm going to have to survive for 12 months on reduced income."....
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Dear All,

And i thought that Agenda For Change and all its cost problems was the Govts idea.

It has taken 3 years from start and no where near finished yet.

This has cost millions.

There are many appeals due to the way that his whole thing has been done. There appears to be no national parity.

In many instances if you sleep with your boss you got a higher grading (just joking). But how you have the differences in banding between adjacent PCT's i do not know.

I have been an AFC panel member for over a year and i do not understand some of the outcomes. I conclude management interference.

So now AFC is here and coming to an end and the Govt are aghast as some of the underpaying of salaries has come to light and remedied. But the overpaying will take 5 years to sort out.

The Govt is the Mistress of its own misfortune.

Now look at the change in PCT's how much will this cost??

also 2008 Yet more change.

The govt is its own worst enemy.

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The BBC are reporting:
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Almost 300 jobs are to go at Shropshire's two main hospitals.
It is thought 80 jobs will go this financial year and 211 before the end of the next at the Princess Royal Hospital and Royal Shrewsbury Hospital.

The Shrewsbury and Telford NHS Trust is in debt by £30m and a spokesman for Princess Royal Hospital said it needed to act or the debt would keep rising.

Last week it was announced that 1,000 jobs are to go at University Hospital of North Staffordshire.

A spokesman at the Princess Royal Hospital in Telford told the BBC it needed to be "more efficient".

"If we do not make the reductions that we need to make now it could be worse in the future.

"At the end of this year we will owe £31m and we cannot allow that to grow at £10m a year, we need to become more efficient."

The spokesman added the hospital hoped to make the cuts through natural wastage but compulsory redundancies had not been ruled out.

Mark Pritchard, the Conservative MP for Wrekin, is to meet union officials from Amicus, Unison and the Royal College of Nursing on Monday to discuss the cuts.
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I suppose as the real agenda for the AFC kicks in. the number of vacancies within the public sector will reduce and positions not filled because of financial constraints. Skill mix will be the next agenda item driven by need and parcochial interests based on professional protectionism, neutered in light of the greater good being served by using exisiting skills. Enter other disciplines poised in the wings and exit small professions into the elective private sector.

Death by stealth or a window of opportunity, take your pick?

Meantime this is a good time to consider immigrating to Western Australia with a lot of good job (well for the public sector, anyway) coming on line. Don't wait too long though because this water shed will not last for ever.

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