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Could you help me with some thoughts about the book : "Foot Orthoses and Other Forms of Conservative Foot Care" by Thomas C. Michaud ? Which is its utility in these days ? Which aspects could be considered useful and which are out of date ?
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I found a review on amazon.com
Quote:"This is simply the best source that anyone can find on the mechanics, diagnosis, and conservative treatment of the foot. If you are a chiropractor, podiatrist, pedrothist, orthopedist, etc., you MUST have this book on your shelf. The subject of Foot Orthoses is not a simple one, yet Dr. Michaud does an excellent job of explaining with clear diagrams and illustrations to follow. This book should be mandatory in all schools involved with the subject of foot mechanics and treatment"
There are other opinions ?
Thank you ,
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
My main concern would be that this book was published over 25 years ago. I sometimes read old posts on here that are 3-4 years old and they sound out of date in light of research that has been done since then.
If it really is a book you are after then I would say that in my opinion your money would be better spent on Kevins 3 Precision Intricast Newsletter books, or maybe one of these:
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Ian,
I agree with you about the Kirby books. They are excellent value and clinically relevant, but the other 2 books that you mentioned have been on the "to be published" list for more than 12 months.
I have tried to contact the relevant authors and/or publishers of those 2 books via websites, emails and have, either, had no replies or seen publishing dates postponed.
It is frustrating!
To answer the original poster:
I think Michaud is still worth a read, but as to which parts - then that is individual to the reader. For example, what I find interesting/relevant may be different to another reader.
I would read widely and check the discussions on this site that are suggested as essential reading.
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Thank you Ian,
The question is : if the last two books [Athletic Footwear and Orthotics in Sports Medicine ,The Foot and Leg in Sport ] are focused on sport activities and foot orthoses for athletes , how can they help in the case of diabetic, rheumatoid arthritis patients or other foot conditions ?
I have Mr. Kevin's 1st and 2nd Precision Intricast Newsletter books [hope to have and the 3rd !] and I found them very challenging ! I also have, Mr. Anthony's book "The manufacture and use of FFO". I like a lot Mr. Anthony's way to transpose in practical prescribing protocols the Root paradigm [even if they are written in a "purist manner"] .
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I have tried to contact the relevant authors and/or publishers of those 2 books via websites, emails and have, either, had no replies or seen publishing dates postponed.
It is frustrating!
Hi Darren,
I don't disagree with you regarding the frustration; I pre-ordered both these books almost a year ago myself (Bartold's will be worth the wait though!)
I guess the publishing process is so extensive that books could almost be 'out-of-date' by the time they hit the shelves nowadays. My point was that if it were a book that Daniel wanted (which I assumed form his post) rather than regular visits here or into the various academic/podiatric journal literature then after Kevins books these 2 would potentially be as 'up to date' as possible.
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I think Michaud is still worth a read, but as to which parts - then that is individual to the reader. For example, what I find interesting/relevant may be different to another reader.
I certainly didn't mean to sound as if I was discouraging Daniel from reading Michaud's book (or any book for that matter). I guess we all just have to be careful not to believe everything we read from older textbooks (just look at two questions posted in recent new threads by a student as testimony to this)
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The question is : if the last two books [Athletic Footwear and Orthotics in Sports Medicine ,The Foot and Leg in Sport ] are focused on sport activities and foot orthoses for athletes , how can they help in the case of diabetic, rheumatoid arthritis patients or other foot conditions ?
Hi Daniel,
My apologies, I falsely assumed it was a textbook on orthoses with regard to sports activity/musculoskeletal medicine that you were searching for (although lets not forget that people with the conditions you mention above play sport also of course).
As far as I am aware these particular conditions are not mentioned in Athletic Footwear and orthotics in Sports Medicine - the list of contents shown here
Not sure about Simon's book - maybe he could come on and tell us?
If it is these sort of conditions you are most interested in then maybe a more specialist book within that field would be more in depth?
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Ian : “I guess we all just have to be careful not to believe everything we read from older textbooks”
Darren : “For example, what I find interesting/relevant may be different to another reader.”
I could say that “I find interesting/relevant” what I “believe” [depending on the base of my believes]. Please, let me to try to give an example : reading about the two axes midtarsal joint model from “Clinical Biomechanics of the Lower Extremities” I found some practical example about how this model is transposed in prescribing protocol in Mr. Anthony’s book. Of course, reading about midtarsal joint in Mr. Kevin’s book and Mr. Nester article’s, if I don’t have a rigid mind, I have to reconsider the practical examples from Mr. Anthony’s book. How can I do this if my understanding or my practice it is not enough in order to give a practical solution ? I think, only trying to understand other people’s work related to this subject ! So, this is the reason I’ve asked “Which aspects could be considered useful and which are out of date ? “
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Hi Daniel,
(although lets not forget that people with the conditions you mention above play sport also of course).
Ian
For sure they play sport, but probably with other velocities [for example] or only some kind of sports [depending on pathology, lifestyle...], which probably change the biomechanics and prescription protocol also !
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Michauds book is worth reading, Just keep in mind that he a chiropractor. His brother owns an orthotic manufacturing lab and played a big role in the book. I would also google other sources as well......Happy readings!
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Michauds book is worth reading, Just keep in mind that he a chiropractor. His brother owns an orthotic manufacturing lab and played a big role in the book. I would also google other sources as well......Happy readings!
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I think possibly the point that Kevin was trying to get across is that chiropractor's tend to view orthotic treatment very differently than podiatrists and allied fields and are not known as 'experts' in that realm. My introduction to the world of orthotics was being provided a foam box to step in for a free 'spinal pelvic stabilizer' in clinic by one of the companies chiropractors overwhelmingly use.
I read Dr. Michaud's book while studying for my pedorthic exam. I feel for the chiropractor, who has literally no training in orthoses out of college his book is a great service to his colleagues and practitioners who may not have had college level training in orthoses. He also does an excellent job of presenting casting, lab and material methods, production and manual treatment all in one text.
Last I had heard he was updating the text and doing studies on casting. Be great if he popped in here...
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I think possibly the point that Kevin was trying to get across is that chiropractor's tend to view orthotic treatment very differently than podiatrists and allied fields and are not known as 'experts' in that realm. My introduction to the world of orthotics was being provided a foam box to step in for a free 'spinal pelvic stabilizer' in clinic by one of the companies chiropractors overwhelmingly use.
I read Dr. Michaud's book while studying for my pedorthic exam. I feel for the chiropractor, who has literally no training in orthoses out of college his book is a great service to his colleagues and practitioners who may not have had college level training in orthoses. He also does an excellent job of presenting casting, lab and material methods, production and manual treatment all in one text.
Last I had heard he was updating the text and doing studies on casting. Be great if he popped in here...
Thank you for the input. I can see where you and Kevin are coming from and while I agree chiropractors are not foot experts, we do get a fair amount of training in diagnosing foot/biomechanical disorders. I have great interest in becoming as knowledgeable about the foot, hence why I am here. I will definitely be looking into the other recommended resources.
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Megan good to have you on board. We get few DC's contributing here, apparently interest in biomechanics and foot orthoses is not as high in our profession as one would hope. Diagnosis is important; treatment is equally important I feel you agree by being here. I would like to see biomechanics courses in chiropractic college include orthotic training someday.
Welcome and enjoy your journey,
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I just came across the reviews of my book and although it's nice to see it's still being used, I wouldn't recommend it as the information in it is really out of date (I wrote it in the late '80's-yikes). I'm about a month away from finishing a new book and with any luck it should be done by March of 2011. I've been working on it for over 3 years as it has over 550 new illustrations and about 1,000 new references. Unlike the last book, it's on gait analysis of the entire body, not just the foot and ankle. The first chapter is on the evolution of bipedality and it reviews anatomical changes in each of our hominid ancestors that made them more efficient. Another chapter on biomechanical exam looks at all the new 3-D research and goes over all the new measuring techniques and theories (including great ideas like Payne's work on the supination resistance device). I've added stuff for podiatrists that includes info on the DC technique for making an orthotic, as well as stuff for PT's and DC's regarding strengtheing exercises, strecthes and mob/manipulations. Now all I have to do is finish the last chapter and it's done. If anyone is intersted in receiving a notice when it's done, just send me an email.
Thanks,
Tom Michaud
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I just came across the reviews of my book and although it's nice to see it's still being used, I wouldn't recommend it as the information in it is really out of date (I wrote it in the late '80's-yikes). I'm about a month away from finishing a new book and with any luck it should be done by March of 2011. I've been working on it for over 3 years as it has over 550 new illustrations and about 1,000 new references. Unlike the last book, it's on gait analysis of the entire body, not just the foot and ankle. The first chapter is on the evolution of bipedality and it reviews anatomical changes in each of our hominid ancestors that made them more efficient. Another chapter on biomechanical exam looks at all the new 3-D research and goes over all the new measuring techniques and theories (including great ideas like Payne's work on the supination resistance device). I've added stuff for podiatrists that includes info on the DC technique for making an orthotic, as well as stuff for PT's and DC's regarding strengtheing exercises, strecthes and mob/manipulations. Now all I have to do is finish the last chapter and it's done. If anyone is intersted in receiving a notice when it's done, just send me an email.
Thanks,
Tom Michaud
Hi Tom to Podiatry Arena, I´m sure if you pop back with a thread/post when the book is finished people would appreciate it.
Hopefully we might see you posting on a few threads also.
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Tom,
I'd like to repeat Michael's sentiment and please post a link when the book is finished. I for one would love to read it and look forward to it.
I urge you to contribute when you have time, you have a great deal to offer here. I know that there are fellow DC's that lurk but do not post on PA Tom. I am hopeful that more will contribute and advance their knowledge of the subject.
Best regards,
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Originally Posted by tommichaud
I just came across the reviews of my book and although it's nice to see it's still being used, I wouldn't recommend it as the information in it is really out of date (I wrote it in the late '80's-yikes). I'm about a month away from finishing a new book and with any luck it should be done by March of 2011. I've been working on it for over 3 years as it has over 550 new illustrations and about 1,000 new references. Unlike the last book, it's on gait analysis of the entire body, not just the foot and ankle. The first chapter is on the evolution of bipedality and it reviews anatomical changes in each of our hominid ancestors that made them more efficient. Another chapter on biomechanical exam looks at all the new 3-D research and goes over all the new measuring techniques and theories (including great ideas like Payne's work on the supination resistance device). I've added stuff for podiatrists that includes info on the DC technique for making an orthotic, as well as stuff for PT's and DC's regarding strengtheing exercises, strecthes and mob/manipulations. Now all I have to do is finish the last chapter and it's done. If anyone is intersted in receiving a notice when it's done, just send me an email.
Thanks,
Tom Michaud
Excellent!!! I'm looking forward to the new edition. Thanks so much for the heads up.
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Originally Posted by tommichaud
I just came across the reviews of my book and although it's nice to see it's still being used, I wouldn't recommend it as the information in it is really out of date (I wrote it in the late '80's-yikes).
Thanks,
Tom Michaud
First of all thank you for your reply and congratulations for your efforts to update your very often referenced book !
In that period of three years it was printed 3 books focused on foot orthoses:
-Michaud - Foot Orthoses and Other Forms of Conservative Foot Care, 1993
-R. Anthony - The Manufacture and Use of the Functional Foot Orthosis , 1991
-Kent Wu: Foot Orthoses: Principles and Clinical Applications, 1990
In my mind some of the representative foot functioning paradigms have generated their books focused on foot orthoses :
STJ Neutral - Mr. Anthony book, Rotational Equilibrium - Mr. Kirby's books, Preferred motion pathway - Mr Nigg's books.
I would like to ask you if yours new book could be linked with one of the known foot paradigms ?
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Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your interest and the chapter outlining abnormal motion is based on everything from altered motion from proprioceptive deficits to movement patterns secondary to weakness and tightness. It really looks at the entire structure, not just the foot/ankle. Because I review outcomes associated with three dimensional imaging, the information is a blend of different theories. The biomechancal exam section looks at measurements that actually predict motion so none of the Root measurements are included. I even omitted forefoot varus and valgus as causes for abnormal motion as the interrater relaiblity is low and they have never been correlated with altered motion.
I hope this answers your question.
Tom
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Hi Ian,
I'll be sending out an ad when it's done so anyone who wants advanced notice should just email me an address and you'll get something in the mail as soon as it's done.
Thanks,
Tom
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Hi Ian,
I'll be sending out an ad when it's done so anyone who wants advanced notice should just email me an address and you'll get something in the mail as soon as it's done.
Thanks,
Tom
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Hi Tom,
"I wouldn't recommend it as the information in it is really out of date (I wrote it in the late '80's-yikes)". The edition you sent me a few months ago said you reviewed the material in 1996. Is this correct? I like the focus of your new book.
Jon
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Hi Jon,
I updated it in '96 to include all of McPoil's info on midstance period subtalar function but a lot has changed since then. The new book also covers the entire body, not just the foot/ankle. I'll let you know when it's done.
Tom
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Michaud;s is required reading at the Universit of Newcastle (80Aussies) Very clear, very detailed. On my bedside table now.
E book would be great, carry it around in my USB.
I would love a few USB books.
Carole
Thomas Michaud's book : Foot Orthoses and Other Forms of Conservative Foot Care
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to Podiatry Arena, I´m sure if you pop back with a thread/post when the book is finished people would appreciate it.
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