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Hello

I've casted a 14 yo boy for orthotics to be worn in his Adidas F50 cleats. (He forgot to bring them to me, so I haven't seen them yet).

His last orthotic was a 4mm polypropylene with a 4mm medial skive, 18mm heel cup, medial flange, and full length Spenco top cover.

My questions are (for those who are familiar with this shoe):
1. Is the liner removable? Or do I have to make it without a topcover?
2. Is it wide enough to accomodate a deep heel cup and medial flange?

Thanks
Ed

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Edward Yip
York Foot And And Ankle Clinic
15423 Yonge St
Aurora, ON, Canada
L4G 1P1
905-713-2546

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Of memory the boot does have a removable insole, so tends to have adaquate depth for a device, unfortunately it's one of the narrowest boots on the market (built for the streamlime foot), so it may be tight to place a medial flange on your device. I'm not sure if you know, but this boot was said to be the 'blame' of one our AFL star players Morton's neuroma in the previous season?
Otherwise, it's a great boot if your client has a narrow foot.
Hope this helps.
regards,

Nitta

Thanks for the reply.

According to images on the Adidas website, the liner is removable, however the TUNIT system has interchangeable cleats that screw on right through the outsole and into the liner. Therefore the liner is only removable when the cleats are removed!

As for the width, his foot is rather narrow so I'll order the medial flange and deep heel and adjust it with my grinder during fitting.

I'll let you know how I make out.

Ed

EDIT: FYI, here's how the liner system works:

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Edward Yip
York Foot And And Ankle Clinic
15423 Yonge St
Aurora, ON, Canada
L4G 1P1
905-713-2546

IMO I would forego the deep heel cup. The TUNIT is a low profile boot with a narrow last. Generally for a boot such as this, optimum functional correction may need to be compromised to facilitate accommodation in the boot. Fact is most boots on the market are of a relatively low profile and narrow width. I generally limit heel cups to 5 mm in boots of this nature and intrinsicly post the orthoses (or if I really need extra support use a quarter post extriniscly).

Ultimately most of the 10 yard sprints that a player will do in a game of football are made on the ball of the foot anyway.

Just my 2 cents

I had an interesting chat with a tech rep from Adidias on football (soccer) boots last night. The new updated +F50* from spring 2008 will have a 2 piece chassis and sock liner to allow the use of an orthoses along with the chasis.

Having seen a sample the heel counter seems on the soft side for my liking, other products in their range, predator* and adipure*, seem to have a more stable heel.

Just my evening rambles

Regards
Euan

*registered trade marks of Adidas

The other way to go about it...... forsake the boots,make the orthotic and find a boot that will fit the orthotic. Nike Mercurial Vapor are low profile, even lighter between 145-300g supposedly but can remove the insole without dismantling the boot, the insole sometimes has a poron backing and so is relatively thick anyway....